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H2Powerman
President / Education Director
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 Posted - May 01 2008 : 02:14:39 AM
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Hey Fellas,
I know I have been incognito the last little bit, but I have a present to you. If anyone is in need of an list of comercial electrolysers with prices and outputs, just hollar and I can post it on the site :D
Thanks guys!
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Abe Fouhy
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Shell O
Junior Member
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 2:45:49 PM
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Abe:
Seems like a good thing to me, that is, I would like to see a listing of what is available. I can't understand why you didn't get a hundred responses... |
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H2Powerman
President / Education Director
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Shell O
Junior Member
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 9:44:25 PM
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Abe, thanks for your kind response. I am extremely new to your forum, which looks to have much of interest. I am just trying to learn what you do offer overall, and hope that at some (future) point I can contribute to the forum. At the moment, I truly have little to offer except a vast store of ignorance... Sighhhh,,,,
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H2Powerman
President / Education Director
USA
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Posted - Jun 23 2008 : 1:38:32 PM
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Shell,
Thats great that you have taken the first step toward learning. At AHANW we educate about using hydrogen any way we can. We do this by teaching classes, going to events, providing demos and on our forum. What first interested you, maybe we can help to give you some directed info. |
Abe Fouhy
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Shell O
Junior Member
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Posted - Jun 23 2008 : 2:57:43 PM
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Abe, given the fact that our ever-useless group of political hacks lost in Foggy Bottom, DeeCee, both Repugnocrat and Demican, seem to be content to continue to do less than nothing (except providing generous welfare support to their client constituincies from ever-increasing tax extortions from the general public,} I feel it is left to the general citizenry to try to find an escape path trom the trap built by misguided public policy.
We must become energy independent if we are to survive as a nation! I don't think alcohol from foodstocks or hydrogen from natural gas or any of the other interesting things proposed by our loyal leadersheep to placate the masses and reward their client supporters has much of a future. Perhaps if we could capture the energy from politically heated air?...
At any rate, I am interested in freed hydrogen as an energy source, and, since one of the major uses of petroleum feedstocks is as fuel to power ICE units, am particularly interested in the work being done in practical decomposition of water to gain over-unity energy in order to replace fossil fuels for transportation uses. The work done in the past is interesting, though unfortunately the data is not yet available to make it easily possible to replicate the work.
At the moment, I am looking at things such as the (Mythical?) HydroStar and the partial records left behind by Stan Myers, as well as the experiments of others investigating similar approaches.
Your forum seem to be one that has quite a bit of information and interesting, interested members. I'm glad to have found it, and hope to contribute to the efforts!
Thanks for everything. |
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H2Powerman
President / Education Director
USA
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Posted - Jun 28 2008 : 10:50:42 AM
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Keithturtle
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - Jul 05 2008 : 7:54:34 PM
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Shellman, the concept of overunity is one that you will learn to disregard. In the HHO scheme of Meyer, the water has within it H and O. (that's true all the time) What Stan does is sets up a tremendous magnetic field between plates in the cell, acting as a capacitor.
The capacitor is one third of an RLC circuit, with an inductor [fixed] and applied DC pulsed in at a frequency. The inductor and capacitor reach resonance, and in the parallel arrangement, the V goes sky high whilst the amps drop to milliamps.F res= 1/ 2pixsq rt LC. Standard resonant freq formula. Thanks, Nikola.
Once subjected to the high voltage, the molecular bond is "switched off", liberating the H and O.
I say this in terms of second law, for second law considers hydrogen as an energy vector. "You must apply power to water to liberate H" And in conventional electrolysis, 2nd law applies.
However, the fact that the H bound in water contains latent energy potential, regardless of the means by which it is released, is overlooked, ignored, [whatever] by the 2nd law gestapo.
Question: If you could release the H and O from water by means other than conventional "Faraday" electrolysis, would that H have any less potential? Answer: NO.
Meyer simply proffers a system using Voltage to do the work, not amps. Amps = watts, and watts = turtlebucks, at least according to my last light bill.
This is Teslian at its heart. The concept has been around the better part of a century. Stan just took it to a level that opens our eyes to the potential. Dare you look into it, also?
Get the voltage to do the work. I'm closer than I was this time last year.
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Doug Hawley
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jerome7l
Junior Member
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 11:30:31 PM
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here is another electrolyser that is small and for 12 volts. do you think there would be any interested in the ahanw to test this out? I know a guy that knows a guy that could get you one. check it out http://hydrogenjunkie.com/products/b3booster.html
you should check on the hydrgen info page, it has a link to the ahanw, these guys must be cool.
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H2Powerman
President / Education Director
USA
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 10:12:58 AM
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Yea you know it!! Those guys are awesome! :D
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Originally posted by jerome7l
here is another electrolyser that is small and for 12 volts. do you think there would be any interested in the ahanw to test this out? I know a guy that knows a guy that could get you one. check it out http://hydrogenjunkie.com/products/b3booster.html
you should check on the hydrgen info page, it has a link to the ahanw, these guys must be cool.
thanks,
jerome
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Keithturtle
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - Oct 25 2008 : 9:58:38 PM
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Their disign is one of the better ones, as their's allows the cell with neutral plates to act as its own voltage divider. The output is truly HHO and not just lots of steam mixed in, as with parallel arrays with only 12 volts per space.
My 4 N stack works well on 12 volts; they're counting on 13.8 from the alternator to keep minimun volts-per-space above 2.4
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DaveHHO
Junior Member
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Posted - Oct 28 2008 : 8:15:50 PM
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Looks like a nice cell, sadly 2 LM isn't going to help with anything except a tax writeoff.. Now I'm not slamming anyone, just saying what I know.
Anyone can make a 2 LM cell that runs off 12 v out of condiment cups for less then 30 bucks |
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premier
New Member
USA
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Posted - Oct 30 2008 : 9:30:41 PM
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Hello all, there is a mixed fuel tax credit to help pay for your Hydrogen generator, as this is what most of our clients do, considering the industrial and commertial aplications.
Do enjoy!
Steve N.
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DaveHHO
Junior Member
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Posted - Nov 08 2008 : 04:19:08 AM
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I'm all for tax "Write Offs" , Whats the output of those drycells ?
Or does it even matter. |
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premier
New Member
USA
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Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 5:55:52 PM
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Dave dry cells are all talored to ones needs, one of our 9 plate units will make 2.5 lpm, more on the larger ones, but holding down around 12 amps it limits the out put as we all know , now on our super cells that are on mega watt generators that is a different story all togreather, they are a kick in the but to watch, but they are also 2'x2'x2' and weigh 143 lbs fun toys.
Slowly step away from the grid...its ok you will be fine :)
Great forum H2Powerman!!! |
Never Stop Learning
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Electrolyser listings?
