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Justin
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Posted - Sep 16 2008 :  1:22:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am a EE student working with a partner on a senior design project to build an alkaline electrolyzer that will be connected to combined wind/solar power supply. We have been doing initial research and understand the basics of operation, but are in need of help with actual design and construction of the electrolyzer.

For example material selection, sizing, hydrogen collection and storage methods, proven designs, failed designs, etc. The power supply is not very large and production will be small scale. Please provide any suggestions and links to sources that could be helpful on this project. Thanks for any help you can offer!!

Contact: jdschaffer@gmail.com

Doug Hawley
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USA
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Posted - Sep 17 2008 :  3:37:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Doug Hawley's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A search for "electrolyzer" on this forum will yield four pages of information. Also see www.goodideacreative.com for ebooks on building your own electrolyzers. Hydrogen Wind sells a decent electrolyzer for about $200.
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Justin
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 :  12:56:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Doug!
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Leif
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 :  1:41:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Leif's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What is your budget?
If it is small i would use stainless steel mesh for the electrodes
and polypropylene as the separator;
if it is large then i would use a nickel alloy such as monel for the electrodes and ptfe as the separator.

do you plan on building pressure in the electrolyzer?
if so what pressure?
how much power will be feeding the electrolyzer?

almost every part you would need can be purchased from McMaster Carr



Leif Schneider
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leif@ahanw.org
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Justin
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Posted - Sep 24 2008 :  1:39:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Leif,

We have a budget of about $300 for the electrolyzer. A grad student has a combined solar/small turbine which charges two 12V car batteries and dissipates through a dump load (heating element). We plan to replace that dump load with our electrolyzer, and the batteries will act as our power supply. I don't think we will be building any pressure as our hydrogen production will be fairly low.

Could you offer suggestions for determining size and number of electrode pairs? Thanks for the help Leif!
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DaveHHO
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Posted - Oct 24 2008 :  06:35:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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What is your budget?
If it is small i would use stainless steel mesh for the electrodes
and polypropylene as the separator;
if it is large then i would use a nickel alloy such as monel for the electrodes and ptfe as the separator.

do you plan on building pressure in the electrolyzer?
if so what pressure?
how much power will be feeding the electrolyzer?

almost every part you would need can be purchased from McMaster Carr




Do you have any links concerning seperating H from the O in an alkaline electroliser ? Ive built a 10 L/M unit and am exploring
the compression and storage of all the HHO that I produce.

TIA

Dave
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Keithturtle
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Posted - Oct 25 2008 :  9:54:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit Keithturtle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dave, how thick would the ptfe need to be, given balanced output pressures for H and O sides?

Thanks,

Turtle
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DaveHHO
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Posted - Oct 28 2008 :  8:05:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good question Keith, I'm interested in H and O separation too ! lol

If anyone has links to research studies or equally qualified sources , post them up ! I don't know why , but I'm having trouble
with the links to the libary and others on this site.

Looks like Billings is about to drop a bomb on the fossil fuel industry.
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DaveHHO
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Posted - Oct 28 2008 :  8:08:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


I'm using 110vac,with neopreme 2mm gaskets, in a 6x6 and 8x8 in. 316 stainless plates. Pushed it gets 9 to 10 L/M

Edited by - DaveHHO on Oct 29 2008 10:07:09 AM
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Keithturtle
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USA
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Posted - Nov 04 2008 :  4:34:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit Keithturtle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How many plates? 60? Do you port the elyte inflow or dump it in from the top?

Got any power numbers at LPM?

I'm putting together a 31 plate EBN cell soon.

Turtle

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DaveHHO
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Posted - Nov 05 2008 :  06:53:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm hooked to 110vac, @ 1.8v ish, per cell, Rec from AC wall current to DC

Use 8 x 8 in plates, I'm checking out a machine shop that will cut my plate into 8 in circle, I think the corners on square plates waste juice.

Also: I talked to the guys at United Nuclear, they finnished the move to Michigan and will have a Complete line , from solar to H2 production to compression and storage and ICE to H conversions on the market in a year or less.

Good stuff, The sooner the better I say
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dangerouslaboratories
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Posted - May 23 2010 :  7:29:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit dangerouslaboratories's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I built an electrolysis unit for the production of hydrogen and oxygen separately. I used an AMI 7001 anion exchange membrane from http://www.membranesinternational.com . Check out my free electrolyzer plans at: http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/hydrogen1.html . -Erik
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